Biyernes, Nobyembre 18, 2011

Mega-churches and Senior pastors in the Philippines

The Philippines has been one of the world’s hot spots for church growth. Although in the first seventy years after Protestant Christianity reached these islands in 1898 only 5,000 churches were established, in the last twenty-five years a further 22,000 have begun. While the average size of a church in Manila is about 100, a number of mega-churches have sprung up with congregations numbering in the thousands.
The term megachurch is the name given to a cluster of very large, Protestant/Born-Again Christian congregations, that share several distinctive characteristics. Here are some mega-churches that also have its other congregation worldwide:

Jesus Is Lord Church (JIL) is a Pentecostal charismatic movement in the Philippines  headed by founder Bro. Eddie Villanueva. The Jesus Is Lord Church was called the Jesus is Lord Fellowship when Villanueva started it with 15 members in 1978. In 2008, it had 6 million members in 10,000 local congregations in 44 countries. In the Philippines, it reached 4000 barangays in 85 provinces and 1,000 cities. 
Founded: 1978
Total members: 6,000,000

Greenhills Christian Fellowship (GCF) is a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, English-speaking megachurch whose main congregation is located at Ortigas. It was a Baptist megachurch founded by David and Patty Jo Yount of Conservative Baptist Association of America in 1978. Dr. Larry Pabiona is the current senior pastor of GCF when Dr. Luis Pantoja passed away in 2010 due to massive heart attack. 
Founded: 1978
Total members: 7,000

Bread of Life Ministries International (BOL) was founded by Rev. Butch L. Conde. It was started in the early 1980's as a half-way house for prostitutes in Olongapo City, until they expanded together with 12 people, including Rev. Conde, to start a new church in Marynoll College (now Miriam College), offered its auditorium to launch the first service gatherings on November 1982, and its church rapidly growth from 120 to 30,000 members overall in the congregations in the Philippines and overseas congregations in Asia, North America, Middle East and Europe. BOL is slightly different from all Christian churches in the country, because the leaders of the church teaches not only on spiritual needs and Heaven's promise, but also they teach intelligence, moral, physical, excellence, nation building and love for country.
Founded: 1982
Total members: 30,000

Christ’s Commission Fellowship (CCF) is a thriving church of approximately 25,000 believers, with worship and bible study centers in major cities in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, plus one in Singapore. The fellowship is composed of and led by lay men and women, actively involved in small groups, in homes, communities, and workplaces. It was started in 1984 by Rev. Peter Tan Chi, as they started as Bible studies in Cainta, Rizal, until they expanded by the businessmen attended the Bibly studies to gather at Asian Institute of Management to launch CCF's first service until they grow into thousands of believers.
Founded: 1984
Total members: 26,000

Victory Christian Fellowship (VCF or Victory)  has 51 churches  in the Philippines, with thirteen in Metro Manila and thirty-eight in various provinces around the country. Rev. Steve Murell is the senior pastor of Victory Christian Fellowship, as well as being overall president of the Every Nation group of ministries. As of 2008, more than 34,000 people attend the worship services in Victory in Metro Manila alone. Victory has local congregations in the Philippines. Also, attended by some TV personalities and political icons.
Founded: 1985
Total members: 34,500

Day by Day Christian Ministries (DBD) was founded on June 6, 1985 in RiyadhSaudi Arabia as a small fellowship of OFWs. But the start of the growth of the organization was in 1990s, when they had the organization set foot in the Philippines. Currently the organization is still doing missions within the Philippines and in Arab countries. The senior pastor is Ptr. Ed Lapiz.
Founded: 1985
Total members: Not counted members

Other mega-churches are
Word of Hope Christian Family Church
Cathedral of Praise
Lord of the Nations Ministries
Word for the World Christian Fellowship
World International Ministries
New Life Christian Center
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  • Mega churches are mega churches because of who the leaders are, the vision they cast before their members and their ability to make spirituality real to their members.
  • but Mega-Church will never be much bigger unless Small Group is emphasized so that the fellowship of the Brethren will remain even though you are big enough.
  • Healthy churches grow its natural as they take care of their members for their spiritual growth.
Bro. Eddie Villanueva (JIL)
Pastor Butch Conde (BOL)

Pastor Peter Tanchi (CCF)


Pastor Steve Murrell (VCF)


Source: en.wikipedia.org

167 komento:

  1. JIL is just only charismatic, not pentecostal... pentecostal is like 4th watch et al... ty

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    1. Ang True Church ay hindi naman padamihan ng miyembro kundi kung paano ipinapangaral ng pastor ang tunay na ebanghelyo ni Cristo, ang tagumpay ng church ay hindi nasusukat sa dami ng naniniwala dito kundi kung paano naginging tapat sa pangangaral ng Ebanghelyo ang pastor

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    2. Ang VICTORY kaya dumami yan kasi NAG PROPROCILITE YAN NG MALILIIT NA SIMBAHAN, kahit evangelical pinipirata nila dito sa Nueva Ecikja at sa Baliwag

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    3. Ang Day by Day namimirata lang din yan na galing sa Evangelical, wala naman silang na i-church plant lahat ng nasa kanila ngyun galing sa ibang church, at yung mga ibang pastor ng day by day mga mapagmataas, magbagao na kayo

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    4. A former CCF member,

      Ganun din sa CCF namimirata ng members at karamihan galing Bread of Life sa Crossroad 77 sa Mother Ignacia QC, si Bong Saquing nga dating pastor ng Bread of Life ngayon nagtuturo na dun sa malaki silang kapilya sa C5, halatang may kinalaman sila na magka-anomalya sa BOL na sabit si Saquing dito para lumaki ang CCF. Ngayon, isang ka-Dgroup ko dati mga dating taga BOL na naghihikayat sila na lahat ng mga taga BOL ay lumipat na sa CCF kasi andito na si Pastor Bong, eh ano ngayon? hoy impyerno ka parin brother dahil mababaw ang faith mo! Porket dati nilang pastor susundan nila dahil daw laging masaya ang service puro joke nawawala na yung God's presence sa mga services ng CCF. BOL Pastor Butch Conde is better than Peter Tanchi and I saw some former CCF members in BOL realizing their right stand, kaya kayo magising na kayo sa katotohanan!

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    5. JIL at Bread of Life lang ang Born-again Christian Church sa Pilipinas na lumaki, dumami ang miyembro ng kusa at talagang pinagpala ng Diyos

      Dun sa nag-comment about Victory, kaya pala in just one year may 10,000+ new members sila, I dont think so, at sa CCF I can't believe na ganun din sila, hanga pa naman ako sa ministry na yan.

      Actually, kaya kasi lumaki yang mga simbahan na yan dahil sa dalawang rason: Malakas ang faith ng leadership and members, at malakas ang evangelistic strategy nila sa mga non-Christian. Please be thankful nalang dahil maraming tao na ang nakakakilala sa Panginoon, that's the main purpose of church growth.

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    6. Hinde po totoo that Victory grows because of proselytizing. That's not definitely not true. The heartbeat of our church is reaching out the lost. If there are Christians from other church attending our church, we welcome them but we tell them to go back to their churches if God's calling is for them to stay there. Don't judge too quickly if you are all Christians.

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    7. Hindi totoo yan kapatid, maging mapagmasid ka at subukin ang bawat espiritu. Ang mga pastor na nandyan ay bayaran ang tunay na may-ar niyan ay si Steve Murrell. Magandang tanungin mo kung ano ang pamamahala ng church na iyan (church polity) parang katoliko din yan na ang pinakamataas ang papa. Tanungin mo kung nagrereport ba sa congregasyon ang paggastos ng pera. May pakialam dapat ang lahat ng miyembro sa kung paano ginagasta ang pera. Dapat ay may financial report. Dapat mong malaman na tao pa rin ang mga lider at malaki pa rin ang hatak ng laman lalo na kung mas malapit ito at walang nakakaalam. Maaaring yung mga pastor na sinasahuran lang ay totoo ang puso sa paglilingkod pero maaari pa ring maging sincerely wrong. Yung mga taong pumunta dyan na galing sa ibang church ilan kaya sila sa porsyento ng membership nyo? ano ang ginagawa upang pabalikin sa kanilang church? inaalam ba ang dahilan bakit lumipat? totoo ba ang motibo sa pag-aanyaya sa kanila na dumalo hindi para sulutin? Hindi kaya may maliliit na church na nagsara na dahil kinuha ninyo ang kakaunti nilang miyembro? Nakikipag-tulungan ba kayo sa ibang churches na malapit sa inyo? Marami pa sana akong maibabahagi pero masyadong mahaba. Kailangan nating mag-ingat dahil nasa mga huling panahon na tayo, maraming magsasabi na ginagawa nila ang gawain ng Paginoon pero hindi sila kinikilala ng Panginoon dahil sa masasama nilang gawa.

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    8. Si Bro. Eddie Villlanueva ay tama ang mensahe tungkol sa kung paano maliligtas. Sa simula ay ayos siya lalo na noong maliit pa ang grupo. Kaya lang talagang ang kaaway ay mahusay na sa pandaraya nung lumaki na ang grupo at dumami na ang pera kinain na siya ng kapangyarihan at kasikatan. Nagmistula na siyang papa sa roma. Kailangang alamin natin ang uri ng gobyerno ng ating mga kinaaanibang church. Ang iglesya na isang tao ang pinakamakapangyarihan ay lalong malapit sa kapangyarihan ni satanas. Wala ng check and balance. Tandaan natin tao pa rin ang mga pastor at sila ay maaari pa ring matukso at maligaw. Si EV ay matagal ng naligaw dahil sa pagkakaroon niya ng aktibistang puso, sa malalim na pagmamahal niya sa bayan niligaw siya ni satanas at inilagay na siya ang gagamitin para baguhin ang bayan. Kaya maging kay Quibuloy ay nakikipag-isas siya at tinatawag niyang kasama niyang mga tagalangit ang grupo nila nung nangapanya siya sa kanila. Tignan ang video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5xlI3NUfsg.

      Marahil sobrang alab ng puso niya na ginamit ni satanas ito upang mapasama siya sa mga gumagawa ng gawain ng Paginoon na hindi kinikilala ng Panginoon dahil sa mga masasama nilang gawa. Malaki dati ang paggalang ko sa kanya at natutuwa ako sa ginagawa niya sa mga kabataan Kanino kayang pera ang ginamit niya sa campaign? Siya ba ang may-ari ng JIL at pera nito? Subukin natin ang bawat espiritu, mag-aral mabuti ng salita ng Diyos!

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    9. Edward Loyola paano niyo po nasabi na masamang tao si Bro. Eddie Villanueva? Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge others, and you will not be judged." Puro ka po espirito espirito, baka ibang espirito na sumapi sayo. Espirito ng pagiging mapanghusga. Alam mo ba kung bakit hindi dapat manghusga? Kasi mas alam ni God ang puso ni Bro. Eddie kaysa sayo. You don't need to condemn and judge him. As God says in Romans 12:19 "Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord." Kung ano man ang ginagawa niya, wala ka ng pakealam dun! Hahaha papakealaman mo yung buhay ng isang tao, bakit Diyos ka po ba? :*

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    10. I think we people shouldn't give criticisms to these churches. We all have different perspective pag dating sa mga bagay-bagay. Wala kayong karapatan para sabihan ng kung ano ano ang mga bawat church na nabaggit kung hindi naman kayo naging miyembro nito for a very long time or should i say na si God lang naman ang may karapatan gumawa non (i judge ang way ng mga church). Kung san mag ggrow ang faith nyo kay God then dun kayo pumunta. You don't need to prove whether mali or tama yung mga pinagsasasabi ng mga tao dito. Some people are still looking for the church they could grow their faith with and i think hindi maganda na nababasa nila na nanggagaling pa mismo sating kristiyano ang mga gantong komento sa mga gantong bagay cause you might be misleading them instead of finding their way to God.

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    11. Iba naman po ang nag huhusga sa nagsasabi ng katotohanan, huwag po nating dayain ang sarili natin. Kapag mali dapat tawagin nating mali...

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    12. "Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment," (1 Cor. 1:10)." Let us set aside these petty bickerings as we are all members of the Body of Christ. We must therefore, focus on the spreading of the Good News that Jesus Christ died for all our sins because he loves us instead of throwing mud at each other.

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  2. hi.. bat wla ang jesus miracle crusade??

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    1. is Jesus miracle crusade IS part of Philippine council of evangelical churches? one of the criteria to be part of the council is that the church must BE a bible believing CHRIST centered church. to clarify it clearly the church must believe that THEIR IS one GOD eternally existing in 3 person (faTHER,SON AND SPIRIT)

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    2. Jesus Miracle Crusade is already a well-established church that is why it's not included. The churches on this list with the exception of JIL only have few churches.

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    3. VERY WRONG! Jesus Miracle Crusade is a non-trinitarian, that means they only believe in Jesus not the God the Father nor the Holy Spirit that's why they are not belong to Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, unlinke JIL, BOL and other major churches in the Philippines are belong to that group because they believe in the TRINITY. Sorry Miracle Crusade...

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  3. hehehehe jesus miracle crusade is not counted on megachurches, its a cult! u know

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    1. how? because they go to abu sayyaf camp before? It is faith in action bro.!!

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    2. I heard and believed it is hyper faith that they have back then.. even claiming that they comeback victorious after preaching to the abu sayyafs but what happened??? imbes n maging parte ng solusyon naging dagdag pa sa problema... i believed they had faith but I think there is no leading by the Spirit of God,, coz God saw their hearts and it is not in line with HIS will..

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    3. paano nyo pong nsabi na kulto ang Jesus Miracle Crusade? Do you have any proof? kayo na rin po ang nagabi na Judge not, and you will not be judged. and paano nyo po nasabi na naging dagdag sa problema ang papunta po doon ni evangelist Almeda? can you cite reasons and prove it? and paano nyo rin po nasabi na without the leading of God? you have to make sure that you are also lead by the spirit of God before talking, baka bumalik lahat sa inyo ung mga sinasabi ninyo. Holiness should not be only ion your heart but also in your mind and in your mouth.

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    4. paano nyo pong nsabi na kulto ang Jesus Miracle Crusade? Do you have any proof? kayo na rin po ang nagabi na Judge not, and you will not be judged. and paano nyo po nasabi na naging dagdag sa problema ang papunta po doon ni evangelist Almeda? can you cite reasons and prove it? and paano nyo rin po nasabi na without the leading of God? you have to make sure that you are also lead by the spirit of God before talking, baka bumalik lahat sa inyo ung mga sinasabi ninyo. Holiness should not be only ion your heart but also in your mind and in your mouth.

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  4. Bread of life celebrated last sunday of its 29th year as a church... were truly blessed, Bro. Butch Conde teaches on how to motivate ourselves as a Christians in this generation, their theme is "The flat world" and how should we Christians then live? a truly blessed God's message! God bless the Philippines =)

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    1. bakit walang preaching on line si bro butch conde,like sa youtube?

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    2. Naniniwala ang BOL na kapag ang tao ay tunay na naghahangad sa Diyos, gagawin niya ang lahat at tatahakin maging ang mahirap na landas, makatagpo niya lamang ang Panginoon. Mas kalugud-lugod yung may naabot ang isang tao dahilan sa meron siyang isinakripisyo kaysa sa wala. Kaya hirap kang makahanap ng online preachings galing BOL. Isa pa ay nag-iingat sa media ang BOL. Ayaw ng BOL na mabahiran ng dumi ng pulitika, negosyo tsismis at katuwaan ang mga bagay spiritwal. At ayaw nilang may mga madapa sa mensaheng maaaring mapakinggan galing BOL ngunit ay hindi naman lubos na nauunawaan ang konteksto ng mensahe.

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    3. Amen to that, I've been visiting BOL for several sundays na at gusto ko context nila kung paano nila naiinternalize of Word of God and I think I could church-hop there, sa pagkakaalam ko dati sa ABS-CBN may program sila until nung si Pastor Bong Saquing (now in Christ Commission Fellowshp or CCF) may preaching materials sya na 'hoax' at tinamaan ng husto ang PH gov't so kinansel ng BOL yung program nila, since then there's still have no livestream because of that. Even though may mga examples sila sa preaching about yung mga current events na bad news sa bansa kaya sa tingin bakit sila nag-iingat sa media. God bless po sa inyo

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  5. brothers and sisters in Christ, any info about word of hope? thank u =)

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  6. Jesus Miracle Crusade Int. Ministry is one of the world largest Apostolic Church based in the Philippines..!! It is even larger than JIL and El Shaddai.. There a large concentration in Sulu, Basila, Zamboanga even in the communist, separatist areas there is JMC church..!!

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    1. sorry but not to offend, Jesus miracle and Wilde Almeda is considered one of the cult leader, that is why its not included on the list, JIL is obviously included but not El Shaddai, it must excluded cause its catholic-denomination. thank you

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    2. grabe nman po mismong JIL leader humahanga sa aming leader Beloved Hon. Wilde E. Almeda. JMCIm is one if not the largest Apostolic Christian Church based in the Philippines. JMCIM is a member of AWCF Apostolic World Christian Fellowship :) God Bless you po

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    3. Worldwide na po ba ang JMC? paano nyo po nsabi na mas malaki pa sya sa JIL??

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  7. naalala ko c pastor bong saquing nnung nsa BOL palang sya, sa 5am service. kakatuwa po mga preachings nya, and i'm so glad to watch his sermons on CCF's live stream, I'm in Vancouver, Canada. I really miss BOL and crossroad. and my friend of mine also misses CCF at st. francis, God bless po

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    1. The Gospel of Jesus is The Gospel of repentance not jokes O patawa, pumunta ka sa laffline kung gusto mo matawa. Yang fav pastor mong si Bong should own up sa aberya at gulo na ginawa nya sa BOL. Isa lang ang hinihingi sa kanya " magsabi ng totoo,

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    2. Sino po ba dito sa atin ang Hindi nagkamali? Hindi nagkasala?
      Ang taong nagkasala ba o nagkamali ay wala na bang pagasang magbago para sa kanyang ikabubuti? (Ayon po iyan sa inyong mensahe patungkol sa isang tao)

      Naniniwala at nananampalataya po ba kayo sa Diyos Ama na nagsugo sa kanyang bugtong na anak na si Jesus Christ para tubusin ang lahat ng kasalanan sa mundo?

      Kung naniniwala po kayo, ngunit nakapagcommento pa din ng hindi maganda sa iyong kapwa sa kadahilanang meron kayong galit na kinikimkim at hindi maiwaksi kaya't hangang ngayon ay hindi kayo makapagpatawad (senyales lamang ito ng iyong pagiging TAO) marapating magdasal at alamin ang saloobin ng Diyos, ito ang iyong magsisilbing gabay at tutulong sa iyo para makapag bigay ka ng kapatawaran sa iyong kapwa na nagkasala o nakagawa ng kamalian sayo o kung kaninu man.

      Sa aking pananaw, wala ito sa laki o liit ng kinabibilangan mong kongregasyon dahil hindi ka nito maililigtas! Sa huli ang magandang relasyon mo sa Diyos Ama bilang isang Kristyano ang syang magiging pasaporte mo sa buhay na walang hangan sa langit.

      Palaging tandaan! Ang Diyos Ama ay mapagpatawad sa taong humihingi ng kapatawaran, siya'y Hindi mapanghusga bagkos mapagmahal.

      Kaya kung ang paniniwala mo ngayon ay nasa kongregasyon at sa tao lamang, napakababaw nito.

      Ang pagiging Kristiyano ay hindi madali! Sapagkat ito'y IMPOSSIBLE!
      dahil tayong lahat ay makasalanan, ngunit napakabuti ng ating Diyos dahil siya'y mapagpatawad!

      God bless..

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    3. Nakakatuwa ka naman. Sa lahat ng nabasa ko dito ikaw ang nagpakumbaba. Hindi naghuhusga. Tama ka. Lahat tayo ay may pagkakasala at patuloy na nagkakasala kaya kailangan talaga natin palagi magdasal at humingi ng awa sa panginoon na tayo'y patawarin at gabayan sa pansamantalang mundo natin sapagkat ang kaaway ay laging nandiyan para linlangin tayo. Mga kapatid anuman ang inis o galit ntin ay ating ipagdasal sa panginoon na alisin at mapalitan ng mapagkumbabang kalooban. Ano man ang church na kinabibilangan ng bawat isa sa atin, tama man o mali ang mga namumuno, di yan ang sukatan ng panginoon para tayo ay maligtas kundi ang tunay na nilalaman ng ating puso. Alalahanin natin na anuman ang ginawa natin sa kapwa natin ay ginagawa din natin sa panginoon sapagkat tayo ay mga anak ng Diyos. Magkasundo na lamang po tayo at sama sama tayo sumamba at magpapuri sa Diyos. Salamat po.

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  8. From Victory church po ako. Honor God. Make disciples!

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  9. Assemblie of God pa rin ang may pinakamaraming members(aside from catholics). You may not hear about them but they have 1 or more churches in every municipality in the Philippines. every municipality (if not all), mayrong A/G.

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    1. AG is one of the Biggest and fastest growing Church in the Philippines with more than 4ooo local churches...

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    2. God Bless Assemblies of God!

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  10. 1 corinthians 1:12-13 "....One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[a]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”Is Christ divided?...."- Paul. it seems like this describes modern churches today.it is far from the conviction of paul and 1st century church. as paul said in Eph. 4:4-6 "There is one body and one Spirit —just as you were called to one hope when you were called — one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." "...Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior."- Eph. 5:23

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    1. I go for this...amen..it is not about the church or where u belong.just d lyt...i graduate from a.g b.s yet I dnt beliv whoever s greater or bigger.i beliv n one body of Christ which aim unity...

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    2. amen...jesus promised, “I will build my church,” note that He was promising to build one church, not many. This one church began in Jerusalem on the first Pentecost day after His resurrection. Three thousand people heard the gospel. They believed and were baptized and the Lord added them to His church (Acts 2:36-38, 42, 47). Jesus Christ is the Saviour of His body, which is the church (Ephesians 1:22-23; 5:23).

      The Bible says that the Lord only has one body, which is His one church. Ephesians 4:4-6 says, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." (emphasis added).  The Bible says there is only one true God even though there are many false gods in this world.  The Bible also says there is only one body even though there are many false bodies in this world.  But what is this one body?  Ephesians 1:22-23 says that God gave Christ "to be head over all things to the church, which is His body" and Colossians 1:18 says that Christ "is the head of the body, the church".  According to the Bible, Christ only has one body which is His one church. 
      Christ only has His one church "which He purchased with His own blood" (Acts 20:28).
      The one true church which Jesus bought with His own blood, is not a denomination and is not made up of any of the many denominations, which men have created.  Those in the Lord's one true church are not to have fellowship with any of the denominations, because we are commanded to "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them" (Ephesians 5:11).  All the denominational churches have rejected the headship of Christ by choosing their own names and doctrines instead of submitting themselves only to the will of Christ as found in the Bible. 

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  11. This post should be updating infos.. I read it in Wikipedia. BOL has 35,000 members in 2012. CCF has 30,000 members in 2011. and VCF has 59,000 members in 2012. Thank you. I'm from Bread of Life in Crossroad 77. God bless po sa inyo!

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    1. woow... fastest growing church parin ang assemblies of GOD

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  12. Bread of Life central church gathering in Crossroad77 building in Quezon City is now less than 5,000 because of the exodus of its key pastors and elders last year. FYI

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    1. are u from bob amigo's group so u hav to attack this church? FYI too, needed to clarify and so-called "exodus of its key pastors and elders" are false.. Pastor Butch Conde leaved his position as senior pastor and became pastor emeritus of bread and Pastor Noel Tan of BOL Makati took over the leadership, as well as the elders needed to retire but still they're belong to BOL. (pls read wikipedia) 5000? maybe thats in a recent years because most of the people are Pastor Bong Saquing's (now in CCF) follower so they transfer all to CCF Ortigas, but this time has maybe in 10k people (growing again). I think that's bob amigo's fault why BOL is now like this in a past year. I'm not a regular member of bread, still connected with Pastor Bong & CCF

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  13. Why are you so concerned with numbers? Jesus only chose 12 disciples close to Him,one of which wasn't even a true one.Padamihan ba ng bilang ng members Ito? Or we should be concerned about the quality of life we live and witness to the lost if truly we are ever Christians.The one who commented about BOL maybe was from BOL before,or have heard from someone else,but doesn't know the facts and is just bitter that's why he left.Or maybe ,he's not ever a true BOL member at all in the first place.If your heart is not for the church,then leave that church.They don't need you there.

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    1. Hindi-nagpakilalaMayo 5, 2013 nang 5:48 PM

      Amen! In the first place bakit parang competition na ito ng bilang ng mga members sa megachurch? dapat nalang suportahan nalang at kung mayron na di magandang nangyayari sa isang megachurch ay wag nang ipagsigawan dito o saan mang christian fourms like bereans.net etc. We are all bros and sis in Christ kaya bakit ba natin kailangan mag-away away dito. and by the way, my friend told me some former CCF members exposed their tirades against that church. It is kind of devil's action para yung mga unbelievers ay hindi na maniniwala kay Kristo and that's it. And plase pray for all churches in the country and to spread the salvation. yun lang po salamat!

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    2. that's right bro, Our church has only 60 members but that doesnt matter. coz Jesus said when theres 2/3/4 people worshiping God He is in the midst of them. Church is the body of Christ and it is one, we christian should not compete about the number of members but we should unite as one, to share Jesus to others who are lost.

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  14. Hot spot of church growth:

    Jesus Is Lord Church - 1980s
    Bread of Life Ministries - 1990s
    Victory Christian Fellowship - 2000s
    Christ's Commission Fellowship - 2010s

    thank God for these churches bringing people to Christ and to be saved by grace :))

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    1. CHURCHES THAT STARTED WITH 2,000 MEMBERS BY YEAR

      1960s - IEMELIF
      1980 - Cathedral of Praise
      1984 - JIL
      1989 - Bread of Life
      1992 - Day by Day Church
      1993 - Victory
      1995 - Word of Hope
      1995 - Word for the World
      1997 - CCF
      1999 - GCF
      2000 - Alabang New Life

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    2. Cathedral of Praise didn't started in 1980. It started in 1953...

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  15. mega church ba ang isang church kung isang local church lang at may 40,000 members who meets every weekends...

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    1. no, if one congregation of a church has more than 2,000 people attended is considering a megachurch, 40,000 members also considered it sobra-sobra na nga yan eh, yung JIL nga lang nasa 3 milllion and i think sila ang pinakamalaking megachurch in the philippines. google google din pag may taym! :)

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  16. in the first palang po, marami ang mga bornagain christian pero watak-watak sila, ang pagiing born again for me is noon tayo ay makasalanan pa, through adan and eve, sinuway nila ang commandments ng diyos ama, natukso sila, ngunit sinugo ang anak ng diyos na ating panginoon, upang iligtas tayo sa kasalanan mana, nung napako na siya natubos na tayo, so bago ganap na, naligtas na tayo, isa pa bornagain in the spirit of God means, pag tayo nakagawa ng kasalanan, umihing tayo ng patawad sa diyos, nagrepent at naniwala sa mabuting balita ng panginoon, for me it its born again,ipinanganak na muli, sa pamamagitan ng pagpapatawad ng kasalanan,bumalik sa panginoon un ang tinutukoy nya sa john 3;3, lahat tayo ay born again dahil kay kristo namatay sa krus at nabuhay muli, i am proud to be kristiayanong katoliko ( CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN) tnk u po god bless!

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    1. ngunit kapatid, marami pa ring nalalabag na kautusan ang mga taong nasa relihiyon pa, paano mo nsabing Born Again na kau kung patuloy kayo sa paggawa ng mga bagay na hndi kalugod lugod sa paningin ng Diyos dhl sa inyong mga tradisyon?

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    2. 1. napanganak ka muli dahil nanampalatayaka kay Jesus na siya ang namatay dahil sa kasalanan. 2.nagconfes at nagrepent ka sa mga kasalanan at alam mo na pinatawad ka ng Panginoon. 3 Habang may buhay ka sa mundong ito,Ituloymo ang pakipaglakad mo sa Dios na pahintulotan mo ang sarili mong makipalakad sa mga salita niya galinsa biblia,Kailangan natin ang pagmamahal sa isat isa.we are known that we are God's children if we have love one wiht another.4 Pagmamahal ang isang senyal ng totoong kristiano. 1John2:26~3:1-3,23

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    3. Kapatid tama ka naman sa punto na lahat tayo natubos na ni Lord Jesus yun ay kung tinatanggap natin sa puso ntin na siya lamang ang panginoon at tagapagligtas. Alam mo dati din ako catholic. Sarado kandado pa nga kasi dun kami namulat ng magulang ko kaso nung tumanda na ako marami na ako naging kwestiyon. Nalito ba ako kpag nagdadadasal. Ang dami pinasasalamatan kay ganito, kay ganyan. Dami dinadasalan. Alam ko alam mo ibig ko sabihin. Hanggang sa by God's grace kapatid binigyan Niya ako ng uhaw para magsaliksik na tama pa ba mga sinasamba ko? Parang natatabunan na si Jesus ah. Eh siya itong tumubos sa atin. Tpos kapatid hnd ako palabasa ng bible noon. Saulo ko pa nga ang ten commandments na turo sa catholic eh kc mga madre ang namamahala ng school nmin nung h.s. Tpos kapatid mo ba nung buklatin ko ang bible? Nabasa ko doon na "Though shall not bow down to any image made from heavens or under the earth for He is a spirit, unseen. He is a jealous God. Akalain mo yun? Wala yan sa 10 commandments ng catholic. Inalis nila yan. Kc kapatid tradition na. Hindi na maalis ng mga nakagisnan na. Pero kapatid thankful talaga ako kc minulat ni Lord mga mata ko at puso ko. Na Siya lamang ang dapat sambahin. Kasi si Lord Jesus lang ang daan para makaharap natin ang Diyos Ama for no one is worthy kasi sobrang pure ng God the father. Sa kasalanan palang ntin tupok na agad tayo sa glory Niya. Kapatid hnd naman inaalis sa atin na igalang ang mother ni Lord Jesus o hangaan at gawing inspirasyon ang buhay ng mga santo pero once na sinamba mo na sila malaki pananagutan ntin sa Creator ntin kasi Siya lang dapat. Dalangin ko kapatid na bigyan ka din ng kauhawan ng Lord para hanapin mo Siya. Magsaliksik ka kung tama ba mga tradisyong nakagisnan na ng catholic. Napplease ba ang Lord na kung sino2 na dinadasalan natin? Basta kapatid sana makatulong itong story ng faith ko from before. Masaya ako kapatid na naging Born Again Christian ako. God bless sayo.

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  17. DIFFERENCES OF JIL, BOL, VCF, CCF & GCF
    1. Foreign partnership
    -JIL: none (because they are indigenous church)
    -BOL: none (because they are indigenous church)
    -VCF: Every Nation
    -CCF: American
    -GCF: American Baptist

    2. Biblical context in teaching the Bible
    -JIL: Western and Eastern
    -BOL: Eastern
    -VCF: Western and Eastern
    -CCF: Western
    -GCF: Western and Eastern

    3. It has a worship hall
    -JIL: none
    -BOL: since 1998
    -VCF: since 2003
    -CCF: since 2013
    -GCF: since 2000

    4. Methods and styles during Prasie and Worship
    -JIL: classic OPM Gospel style
    -BOL: OPM Gospel, Hymns and Contemporary Christian Music
    -VCF: Contemporary Christian music
    -CCF: Contemporary Christian music
    -GCF: Contemporary Christian music and Hymns

    5. Methods of soul-winning
    -JIL: through simple Bible-sharing
    -BOL: through different marketplace, social and community ministries
    -VCF: through universities around Metro Manila, students is the target
    -CCF: through simple Bible-sharing
    -GCF: through simple Bible-sharing

    6. The Power of Prayer (from one to ten)
    -JIL: (ten)
    -BOL: (ten, credits for their famous prayer mountain in Antipolo)
    -VCF: (seven)
    -CCF: (four)
    -GCF: (five)

    7. Membership
    -JIL: 3 million
    -BOL: 35,000
    -VCF 60,000
    -CCF:30,000
    -GCF: 10,000

    8. Online Presence (ranking)
    -JIL: 1st
    -BOL: 4th
    -VCF: 2nd
    -CCF: 3rd
    -GCF: 5th

    9. Online, Podcast and Livestream preachings every Sunday (by ranking)
    -JIL: 2nd
    -BOL: 5th
    -VCF: 3rd
    -CCF: 1st
    -GCF: 4th

    10. How much they care about the Philippines? (by ranking)
    -JIL: 2nd
    -BOL: 1st
    -VCF: 3rd
    -CCF: 5th
    -GCF: 4th

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    1. Are these based on extensive research? Where were the data taken?
      Also, Wikipedia is not that reliable.

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    2. How much they care about the Philippines? JIL: 2nd? Hindi po ba dapat 1st? Worldwide po ang JIL pero karamihan OFW's ang mga member nito. Thanks po :)

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    3. Fyi worldwide din nman ang BOL ah? Tsaka di hamak mas may malasakit ang BOL sa bayan kesa sa JIL. Ang sagot lang na alam nila ay pasukin ang pulitika.... Duuuh?! I remember Pastor Butch Conde's post-Yolanda preaching recalls the faith hope and love. He urges Korean church leaders to not give any centavo for the victims of Yolanda because let us give a chance to help our fellow countrymen. Yan ang totoong pastor, malasakit sa bansa = pagmamahal sa Diyos.... Kaya pansinin nyo sa BOL never pasukin ang pulitika like nung gnagawa ng JIL at ni Eddie Villanueva.

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  18. we should not compete...we should rejoice that we Christian are growing in Numbers....we are not enemies...help each other...

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    1. this is happening already between Bread of Life and CCF. Laking Bread of Life ako at lumipat ng CCF pero bumalik ako sa Bread, why? there's a problem about discipling strategy about getting big number of people before the year 2020 so that they'll claim to be the "fastest-growing" church in the country, wala pong problema dun pero fastest-growing na sila sa lagay na yun at laging prosperity gospel ang tinuturo ng CCF which ay ayaw ng Bread of Life na ituro ang prosperity gospel. And my big reason for going back to Bread is because may sarili sila DNA on how to share Christ in different doctrines na ginaya naman ng CCF pero ang Bread tinanggal ito lately dahil nagkamali na sila ng direksyon kaya bumalik sila sa Basic Christianity strategy, now CCF remains on that Bread's old strategy, not because Bong Saquing is there, because they practice Western discipling too. No offense to all CCFers pero ito po ang totoo, let the truth prevail.

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    2. Hi!
      CCF does not teach the prosperity gospel. :)

      It's not about which imperfect church your part of, it's about Jesus!

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    3. CCF member ka no? kung di prosperity gospel ang CCF bakit puro blessings ang mga turo dyan? why hide the truth? matagal ng issue yan dyan simula nung groundbreaking ng C5 church nyo namimilit kayo ng mga miyembro na mag tithes lahat para maitayo ang P3Billion church building nyo

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    4. Surely, I'm not here to hide the truth. I personally think that gracious conversation is good! Certainly this shouldn't end up in debate. Whatever happens, there's grace for all of us.

      CCF is very critical against the prosperity gospel, and explicitly acknowledges how the Christian life can be far from from prosperous. It can be gritty, real, and challenging. We also do not downplay sin and its consequences. (Though this doesn't discount the fact that God is a generous God. Since we are often muddled in our own selfishness, we need to realign our concept of blessing, and not reduce it to the financial.) We are taught to be joyful in all circumstances-- with or without money, with or without a large building, in season and out of season. Any believer of the Bible would naturally assent to this.

      As for the C5 church, we were never forced to give tithes. CCF goes out of its way to make sure that its members give, not because they were forced or pressured into doing so, but because it was out of the overflow of their hearts. We don't even have envelopes on our seats! Tithe boxes are situated around the centre, so that people can give in private. Our pastor even makes sure to explain that tithing is a matter between the Christian and God.

      In the end, we are not called to defend our respective churches. We are called to be witnesses of the gospel. This is ultimately the most essential, and can overcome the imperfections of our churches. Grace is truly amazing!

      God bless!

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    5. Bro, I am not from CCF nor from BOL, I came form a small fundamental bible baptist church, but I've been watching the preaching of CCF for almost 2 years but i doubt they preachs prosperity gospel. I dont know where you'd got all of your info but I still pray for every christian churches to unite to share Jesus to the lost. Godbless my friend

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    6. I can attest to the fact that

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    7. In my almost 1 year of attending at CCF, I also have never heard any teachings at CCF that may identify them as advocating the prosperity gospel.

      However, with regards to the building funds, they never forced their members or attendees to give for their C5 building funds, but they they really tried to convince their members to give for their building funds as their leaders used their worship services and messages for the solicitation, even quoting unrelated verses from the Bible just to appear that what they are teaching or soliciting is Biblical. I can truly say this because I was there at CCF St. Francis when the message was solely dedicated for the solicitation for the construction of CCF Center. I was really dismayed.

      CCF does not have collection envelopes or collection bags being pass around and very seldom teach about tithing, but they do believe and teach that Christians should give ten percent of their gross income to the church using the Jewish tithing as their basis to make it appear that it is Biblical. However, this is highly questionable, in truth, tithing is never taught to Christian in the New Testament. The New Testament mentions tithes, but teaching to tithe and mentioning the tithe are two different things.

      When we say that a doctrine is a Christian doctrine or a Christian teaching, we look at what the Christian doctrines or teachings of the Apostles are, or what they taught to Christians during their time, and what they taught to Christians is about giving or offering, voluntary and sacrificial or even generous giving. How much? Whatever he or she would be willing to cheerfully give from the heart, according to his or her ability or capacity and as he or she has decided. Any amount that is given willingly and voluntarily is acceptable unto God whether it is more or less than ten percent. If a Christian has the means to be generous because he or she has been blessed by God with so much, then by all means give generously. (1Co 19:2; 2Co 9:7). Mostly, collections for the offerings were made to help the poor Jewish Christians in Jerusalem and to bless the evangelists and elders in their times. Otherwise, the giving is directed also to the poor and the needy believers, even to the unbelievers. This is what the New Testament teaches.

      But why does the New Testament mentions tithe?

      When the Lord Jesus Christ spoke about the tithes, He was talking to the Jews only, specifically the Pharisees. He was merely reminding the Pharisees of the commandment for the Jews (not the Gentiles) to tithe.

      In the Book of Hebrews, again the tithe is mentioned, but it is very clear what it says, that those who have been authorized or was given the commandment to collect the tithes are ONLY the Levites (Heb 7:5).

      Now why did God commanded the Israelites to tithe for the Levites? It is because the Levites have not been given an inheritance by the Lord. Meaning, they have no means to earn or to support themselves, the whole tribe of the Levites, because they were commanded by God to work exclusively to serve God in the Temple for the whole nation of Israel.

      Whereby in the New Testament, the Levitical priesthood was abolished as it was only a foreshadow of the priesthood of all believers with Jesus being the High Priest.

      The Church that was established in the New Testament times are gatherings of groups of believers in believers houses. Thus, requiring no administrative or building expenses like in the Jewish Temple. It was only in the 11th century that worship places like the cathedrals were built, then parishes for smaller churches were built, which later became the Eastern Orthodox churches and the Roman catholic churches.

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    8. Good day sir, I am a tither po and I witnessed how God has been blessing me, Jesus said in part of Matt: 23:23.."...you should practice the latter, without neglecting the former"

      And until now, God has showed His faithfulness on how he provides because of the obedience that i did. And tithing is not just a matter of money, it is a matter of obedience, when you obey in this area of your life, then other areas of your life will follow.

      God Bless you brother! :D

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    9. Lately, I've been directed by God to watch Pastor Bong's message and it's a blessing to hear his preaching and how he clearly explain the scriptures. Bold and direct to the point ang message and he teaches like a teacher talaga na he makes sure na nakukuha yung message. I hope I could attend one of His service soon.

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    10. :) Funny because nag stay ako sa CCF kasi they don't preach the prosperity gospel. You might have the wrong definition of what a prosperity gospel preaching is. A prosperity gospel preacher is someone like Joel Osteen, TD jakes, and majority of the preachers on TV. :) Peter Tan Chi addressed the prosperity gospel as 'Not' the gospel a lot.

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  19. AKO PO AY KASAPI SA JIL CHURCH,WALA PO SA PARAMIHAN NG MIYEMBRO,O PALAKIHAN NG SIMBAHANG ATING SINASAMAHAN, MAGPAMIYEMBRO MAN TAYO SA LAHAT NG MALALAKING SAMBAHAN,AY WALANG KABULUHAN ANG LAHAT NG ITO,KUNG DI RIN NAMAN TAMA ANG ATING RELASYON AT PUSO SA DIYOS.MAS MABUTI PA TUMAHIMIK KA NALANG AT AYUSIN MO ANG RELASYON MO SA DIYOS.(MATTHEW 7:21)

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    1. Amen po kapatid!! taga-JIL navotas po ako, katotohanang katotohanan ang pahayag ng Panginoon sa iyo.

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    2. amen po kapatid. taga JIL Timog naman po ako...

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    3. JIL is the flagship of Born-Again Christianity in the Philippines. Kung iti-trace ninyo kung saan nagmula ang mga pastors na nagtayo ng sarili nilang church, karamihan ay galing sa JIL at ini-encourage yan ni Bro Eddie Villanueva para kumalat ang tunay na salita ng Diyos sa lahat ng dako. Sino man ang magpasinungaling sa katotohanang ito, ikaw na mismo ang magdadala niyan. At sa mga pumupuna sa mga pagkakamali daw ni Bro. Eddie Villanueva, tandaan ninyo kung totoo mang nagkamali siya, walang perpektong tao, walang malinis ni isa man sa paningin ng Diyos kahit na ikaw na nagpaparatang. Kaya magisip ka kung tama ba ang iyong ginagawa dahil ang pinararatangan mo ay ang taong pinagkatiwalaan ng Diyos na maging daan upang napakaraming tao ang makakilala sa Panginoon.

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    4. Amen! Greetings from JIL/KKB Paniqui :D

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  20. Romans 10:9
    New International Version (NIV)

    If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.


    ROMA 10:9

    Kung ipahahayag ng iyong labi na si Jesus ay Panginoon at buong puso kang sasampalataya na siya’y muling binuhay ng Diyos, maliligtas ka.

    TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY AND PRAISES!! AMEN

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  21. wala po yan sa bilang ng miyembro, kundi kung paano po natin ipinamumuhay ang salita ng Diyos at ang kaayusan ng relasyon natin sa kanya :)

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  22. Bakit hndi po kasali ang JA1 o Jesus the Anointed One Church na located ang main church sa alangilan batangas city napakalaki po nitong Full Gospel Church na ito with 3 services and about 5000 attendees of the services

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    1. kc ang JA1 ay sa batangas lang mmm originally galing sila saJIL kung matagal ka ng JA1 member malalaman mo na lahat ng pioneers ay JIL kc original JIL church sya na pinalitan ng pangalan ng Pastor to make it JA1:)) maginterview ka po jan ng mga matatagal na:))

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    2. tama po yun na galing sa JIL ang JA1, pero ganun din po yung ibang mga churches na nabanggit sa list. karamihan sa kanila galing din sa ibang churches before they started their own denominations. nag originate po sa batangas ang JA1 but I believe ngayon meron na clang 164 churches sa loob at labas ng Pinas.

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  23. Bakit wala po ang ADD dito?

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    1. brad kc po non-trinitarian ang grupo ni soriano kya wala ang ADD sa listahan

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  24. ang true church ay ung church na ginawa ni kristo....na pilit na binabago ng mga karamnihan sa pastor ngayon

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  25. Hi! Ako po ay isang membro ng Victory Church. Sumisimba din po ako sa CCF pero sa victory talaga home church ku. PLEASE LET US STOP THESE NEGATIVE COMMENTS because it cannot edify the Body of Christ here in the Philippines. Magkaisa po tayu sa ating mission that is to win souls and make disciples. WE ARE ONE BODY, WE BELIEVED IN ONE LORD. LET OUR SMALL DIFFERENCES will not cause harm to our relationship to each other.

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  26. Unity dapat :) Amen We are One Body :)

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  27. Mag ka isa na lang sana tayo Amen ! WE ARE ONE BODY sinu sino pa ba ang magtutulungan tayo tayo din naman diba ?

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  28. i came from bread of life then nung nagpunta ako ny US i attended BOL in NY maganda nman ang turo dun but somehow i felt malayo ako sa Lord coz even they teach about the bible mostly ang teachings about excellence, health, Rizal , our coutry so dun napupunta focus ko parang nka focus ako sa sarili ko palagi, im not saying na mali teachings nila but i felt di ako na go grow maybe di para sakin un ganung teachings, i dont know ,but when tragedy hit on me , hinahanap ko ang basic teachings about God , so i left went to assemblies of God for a while, gusto ko kasi un meron altar call, at BOL they dont usually do altar call. then i moved to las vegas and attending JIL , in JIL i felt i started at the basics all about God . no Rizal , not so much on current events its mostly bible based, what i like about JIL is the people, the pastor very approachable, people are humble and treat as family, in BOL NY they are also nice but i feel more comfortable with my friends in JIL , i have to admit the pastor in JIL is approachable. i dont judge pastor in BOL, maybe the problem lies within me during that time thats why i dont feel they are appeochable, but when it comes to teaching the best teachings that i like is CCF , i listen to their teachings at youtube, i like Peter tan chi and bong Saquing its bible base but always with practical applcations. My advise is pray kung saan church kayo , coz iba iba ang puso natin and our faith level so pray and ask God to bring you to the right one where you could grow. hopefully when i go home to Philippines i will go CCF.God bless

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    1. This is what our problem as a believer these days, lagi kasi tayo nakatingin sa pastor o sa church mismo. They have different teachings on these groups, if you want on basics on Scriptures, that's JIL, if you want to give your life a living sacrifice and in faith like what there teaching excellence, wellness and Biblical nationalism, go to Bread of Life. And if your struggling in faith and take some time on spiritual intimacy, go to CCF, iba-iba kasi ang calling ng mga churches na yan, depende na talaga sa tao yan kung saan sila magio-grow.

      Kaya inollow ng Lord na maraming churches at iba iba ang pag-internalize ng Word of God dahil inihanda Nya ito sa mga tao kung saan sila mago-grow spiritually. Kaya the best advise is to pray and follow your heart.

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    2. Hindi sa ang tinitingnan ay mga pastor kundi sinusuri lamang ang kanilang itnuturo kung ito ay ayon Salita ng Dios.

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  29. so pray , you can just go to church bec this person says this says that, mas magaling pastor dito , but ask God coz he knows your heart , maybe you will grow more in BOL or maybe in CCF Or JIL. You will know and dont just beleive what your pastor says always check kung naaayon sa scriptures turo nila.

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  30. dati akong bread of life, i just want you all to be careful when choosing a church. i remember nung nasa bread of life , may pinakita na horror movie which is done by one of the church member its a filipino movie nakalimutan ko title, pinapakita kasi doon un mga movies nung member as far as i remember parang young director yata yung member, pcncya na it was a long time ago i think early 2000s , and butch conde was there , coz itong member who made the movie , gustong i example for excellence, i remeber occultic un movie , it was evil but for the sake of excellence it doesnt matter kahit evil. after sooo many years and learning some teachings about occult na realize what bread of life did is very very wrong. pls be very careful, i was in bread for a very long time and malayo ako kay Lord, all i care about is being excellent . mostly that is the teaching of bread esp. butch conde. i remember narinig ko si butch conde in one of his preachings in californis, if someone will give him a ticket from pjilippines airlines sabi nya: i will tear it in front of you, bec d sya sumasakay ng PAL. i hope nagbago na bread of life , coz si noel tan na senior pastor. i felt na masyado nagiging self righteous na ang bread.pls pray for Bread of life. our enemy is so crafty, i thought ok lang yang mga horror movies , ngayong lang nabuksan ang mga mata ko , but when i was in bread para sa king lahat ng teachings nila tama, and bread lang ang alam kong church na tama. i have so many friends there so pls pray for them. i will post my name , coz im telling the truth . myra

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    1. dont worry sis.
      bread of life already seeks their journey back to their biblical foundation. i know na nagkamali sila but they realized that the direction is out of no where. ganun talaga ang mga church walang perpekto, few weeks back, i attended BOL's biblewalk academy, the talk called "ethos", and i understand why bread is like this, about their holistic teachings (mind, soul and body) kaya siguro pinopromote nila ang excellence at nationalism, but still its up to us if you want to apply it or not. tama din ang sinabi mo, i prayed for it too. bread is now back on their original track!

      from a BOL member, God bless you! :)

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    2. mga kapatid mga teachings ng BOL noong 90's ay parehong-pareho sa CCF, I believe that it leads to what BOL had experience today, so pagpray parin natin ang CCF. Kataka-taka lang talaga sa twing ang church ay lumalaki, nagbabago sila?

      -Former BOL & CCF member

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    3. The new paradigm of the BOL or a shift from the Biblical teachings to mixed spiritual and worldly teachings have made BOL to lose purity of the Gospel message.

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    4. They even have "women pastors/rev" which is wrong.

      http://www.sbclife.net/Articles/1998/05/sla5
      https://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/transcript_women_preachers.html

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  31. honestly bread has been a part of my life, i think ive been with for almost 20 years i still apply some of their teachings , i know maraming nabago sa character in a positive way, but my mistake as i keep on focusing on myself slowly napalayo ako kay Lord, im glad bread is now back on their original track. I realized how crafty our enemy is, being with bread for 20 years nakit ko kung how an enemy works , slowly until they achieve their purpose, so im so happy that bread is moving back to their original track. God bless .myra

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  32. Bloom where you are planted. Christianity is about our personal relationship with God. Our only main concern is obeying God's will in out lives. Pagsamasamahin natin mga maliliit na churches, I'm sure daig nila sa laki ang lahat ng mega Churches. Article is about numbers and information only. Please do not attack the churches listed. May we live in the peace as fruit of the Holy Spirit.

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  33. For me po of all the religious leader si Beloved Pastor Wilde Almeda po ang pinakamatapang at nangangaral ng boung katotohanan.yung pag tungo po nya dun sa abu sayyaf camp ay bilang pag sunod sa utos ng Mahal na Panginoon na ipangaral ang salita ng DIOS sa LAHAT ng dako meaning po kht delikado mangaral k hindi sya pumunta dun pra mag pasikat aanhin po nya ang kasikatan kung papatayin dn cla ng mga mababangis n abu sayyaf. Pro hindi nangyari dhil bumuhos ang himala ng DIOS sa pangyayaring iyon. Name it firing squad ng abu, bomba ng militar cla na nga po nag sabi imposible mabuhay p cla almeda pero with GOD nothing is impossible! :)

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Wilde almeda is not part of Evangelical pastor.

      Burahin
  34. Natawa naman ako sa isang post. Mas magaling daw c Rev. Conde kay Dr. Tan-Chi. Halatang hindi Born-Again. Kahit c Rev. Conde, tatawanan ka lang. Sa isang tunay na Born-Again, walang magaling kundi c Jesus Christ lang. GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

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  35. nkakalungkot nmn mlaman mga christian ngbbngayan... wala nmn kc un sa pastor at ministry... pra bgang nkalimutan ung respeto at pgmmhal...

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Ito yung mga taong pumunta sa church dahil magaling magturo si pastor.. dapat kay jesus tyo nktingin..

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  36. Sa lahat ng nag-post mula sa simula . . . God bless you all!

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  37. sa lahat ng ito, katuruan, Pastor, laki ng bahay sambahan, dami ng dumadalo, hindi ba ang sinabi ng kasulatan ay humayo at ipangaral ang Mabuting Balita, ito ba ang mabuting balita? Siguro ang dapat nating pag-usapan ay ang kung ano ang itinuro ng Panginoong Jesus.

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  38. Dapat mapa JIL, Victory, CCF, GCF, BOL magkakapatid tayo dapat reach out tayo about God and maihayag ang salita ng Diyos sa bawat tao. actually BOL member ako and nakaatend na ako ng JIL, Victory, and GCF. lahat sila is salvation ang tinuturo din Victory is to reach out the People for beginners in Christ and magaling sila humawak ng mga kabataan because by the God's grace. and JIL same with Victory ang ayaw ku lang dyan is nun tumakbo si bro. eddie na president and sinabi ni cindy jacobs na nakita nya na i see bro. eddie in the malacanang dapat kung dyan sya nilagay ng Diyos dapat sya ang president ngaun kasi lahat naka predistined na eh.. may plan siya kay Bro. eddie not politics. no regrets to bro. eddie actually na blessed din ako sa JIL and ok din ang mga turo nila like Victory. and BOL talagang dito ako nahubog ni God and pati Family ko. CCF naman just like BOL na malalim na din sila sa pagtuturo pinapakinggan ko yun mga preching sa youtube and mas marami din akong natutunan about GOD. my brother is church at Victory. kaya no regrets sa Victory,BOL,CCF and JIL and also GCF basta about GOD ang tinuturo ay dapat magtulungan nalang sila sa prayers. example sa Robinson Metro East ang Victory at Bread of life magkatabi lang nag tutulungan sila pag may prayer meeting magkasama sila at magkaibigan sila both pastors ng bread and victory. kaya dapat magkakapatid tayo kay God dapat maging masaya tayo para kay GOD.

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Real christian dapat unity ang mindset natin hindi mag siraan

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    2. Real christian dapat unity ang mindset natin hindi mag siraan

      Burahin
  39. 36 "But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe.
    37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. (Joh 6:36-37 NAU)
    44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. (Joh 6:44 NAU)
    65 And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father." (Joh 6:65 NAU)
    kung inaakala mong ikaw ang pumili para maligtas ka, pag-aralan mong mabuti ang mga talatang nasa itaas. at kung sa paniniwala mo na manampalataya ka muna at ikaw ay maipapanganak na muli baligtag ito sa katuruan ng Biblia.
    1 John 5:1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. (1Jo 5:1 NAU)
    12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
    13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. (Joh 1:12-13 NAU)
    9 He has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, (2Ti 1:9 NIV)

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  40. Ang daming negative comments about churches. Its about the persons decision nman kung saan nila gusto. IT depends on the person, Kung saan sia tingin niya mag gogrow. Pastors and leaders are there to support and help people grow. Pero may sarili naman isip ang bawat tao, alam ang tama at mali. so wag sisihin ang mga pastor. U dont have the right to judge them. You dont have the right to judge yung mga taong nag aatend ng mga churches. Ang mahalaga naman diba is relationship between YOU and GOD! Hndi naman mahlaga yung ibang tao.. AS long as you have intimate relationship with God. ibibigay niya sayu yung Church kung saan ka talaga mag gogrow. So bro sis na nagsasabi ng mga negative jan., Just pray for the churces PLEASE! Ive to many churches ang importante is they are teaching bible and JESUS Christ ofcoarse.. Nkakadis apoint lng magbasa ng comment. This is my first time na magcomment. KAsi WE are one dapat regarding our faith ,merun tayung ibat ibang church. Pero iisa ang pinpaniwalaan natin,. MAg kaisa tayo t reach out unbelievers hndi Christian dn naninira sa isat isa. Godbless!

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  41. Sa lahat ng Christian Religion dito sa Pilipinas, ang totoo lang namn ay ang Katoliko, lahat ay peke na gawa lamang ng demonyo ang mga iba. Kaya kahit anung sabihin niyo, mali nag pananampalataya niyo dahil sa Katoliko lamang ang may katotohanan

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    Mga Tugon
    1. kapatid, nag-umpisa ka na naman ng diskurso. God bless you.

      Burahin
    2. yung mga nagsisimula ng negative comment dito, ang siguradong kailangan ng salvation. God bless you all! if we are real christians we shouldnt say bad in each other diba?

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    3. These must be one in faith, exalting God - the Holy Trinity, we should set aside politics, self-interest and making enemies with out brothers! We should strive is what Jesus commanded his disciples before He left them. God bless all the Christian ministries!

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  42. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life...

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  43. Bakit kailangan pa magpalakihan ng mga church kung si God lang ang ipinapangaral pare-pareho. siguro may mga hidden agenda mga church niyo :-) peace

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Ang lakas naman magsabi nung isa diyan na dmonyo daw lahat. bakit di ba demonyo ang catholic church

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    2. Ang lakas naman magsabi nung isa diyan na dmonyo daw lahat. bakit di ba demonyo ang catholic church

      Burahin
    3. Isa pa 'to. God bless you. Sabagay. Ganito talaga ang mga bloggers. God bless us all!

      Burahin
  44. KUNG IKAW AY TOTONG CHRISTIAN SA PUSO AT SA ISIP MARUNONG PO SANA TAYONG MANAHIMIK AT HAYAAN NALAMANG ANG IBANG TAO ANG MAGSALITA NG MAGSALITA. TUMINGIN PO TAYO SA DIYOS AT WAG SA TAO GOD BLESS US ALL. -YOUTH :)

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Iniuutos po sa atin sa Biblia na suriin ang bawat espritu kaya hindi pwedeng ipagbalewala ang maling katuruan of bulaang pangangaral.

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    2. 2 Timoteo 3:15-17 Mula pa sa pagkabata ay alam mong ang Banal na Kasulatan ay nagtuturo ng daan ng kaligtasan sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya kay Cristo Jesus. 16 Ang lahat ng Kasulatan ay kinasihan ng Diyos, at nagagamit sa pagtuturo ng katotohanan, sa pagtatama sa maling katuruan, sa pagtutuwid sa likong gawain at sa pagsasanay para sa matuwid na pamumuhay, 17 upang ang lingkod ng Diyos ay magiging karapat-dapat at handa sa lahat ng mabubuting gawain.

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    3. Hebreo 12:2 Ituon natin ang ating paningin kay Jesus na siyang pinagmumulan at kabuuan ng ating pananampalataya.

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  45. Mga kababayan ko tama na yang pag bibigayan at pag papalitan ng kaalaman lahat tayo siguro ay membro sa isang pananampalataya. ito lang masasama ko. BAWAT NAG TUTURO NG BIBLIYA AY SUBUKIN NYO SIYA BA AY MAY KARAPATAN MANGARAL AT ANG KINABIBILANGAN NATING RELIHEYON AY MAY PATOTOO BA O HULA NA MULA SA BIBLIYA, dahil may nakasulat na hindi lahat nag sasabi ng 'PANGINOON, PANGINOON AY Maliligtas kundi yaong lamang ang sumusunod sa mga UTOS KO" Hindi rin pananampalataya lamang ang dapat gawin upang maligtas. sabi nga " AANHIN MO ANG PANANAMPALATAYA KUNG WALA NAMAN MGA GAWA". tandaan natin sa mga huling panahon ay maraming lilitaw na bulaang propeta o taga pangaral na kunwa'y maaamong tupa ngunit sa loob nito ay mga ganid na LOBO. gumagamit ng matatamis na mananalita kinukuha nila ang bawat atensyon ng ating LOOB na kapag narinig natin ay tumatagos sa puso at ang iba ay umiiyak pa, isa yan sa mga taktika ng mga bulaang tagapangaral. TANDAAN NATIN SI SATANAS MAN AY SUMISITAS NG TALATA NG BIBLIYA noon panahon na tinutukso niya ang ating Panginoong Jesus ay sumisitas siya ng mga TALATA upang dayain niya ang ating Panginoon. ITO LANG PAIPAPAYO KO SA INYO MGA KABABAYAN, gusto ba natin maligtas? Panahon na para suriin natin ang ating kinabibilangang reliheyon. sundan lang natin ang aking sinabi sa bandang unahan "SURIIN, ALAMIN AT SUBUKIN higit sa lahat hihingi tayo ng tulong sa ating PANGINOONG DIYOS na huwag tayo maligaw kungdi dalhin tayo sa tamang landas sa ikaliligtas ng ating KALULUWA. SALAMAT PO!

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    Mga Tugon
    1. 1 Juan 4:1 Mga minamahal, huwag ninyong paniniwalaan kaagad ang bawat nagsasabing nasa kanila ang Espiritu. Sa halip, subukin muna ninyo sila upang malaman kung talagang mula sa Diyos ang espiritung nasa kanila, sapagkat marami nang huwad na propeta sa mundong ito.

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    2. 1 Juan 4:7-14 Mga minamahal, mag-ibigan tayo sapagkat mula sa Diyos ang pag-ibig. Ang bawat umiibig ay anak ng Diyos at kumikilala sa Diyos. 8 Ang hindi umiibig ay hindi kumikilala sa Diyos, sapagkat ang Diyos ay pag-ibig. 9 Inihayag ng Diyos ang kanyang pag-ibig sa atin nang isugo niya sa mundo ang kanyang kaisa-isang Anak upang magkaroon tayo ng buhay sa pamamagitan niya. 10 Ito ang pag-ibig: hindi sa inibig natin ang Diyos, kundi tayo ang inibig niya at isinugo niya ang kanyang Anak upang maging handog para mapatawad ang ating mga kasalanan.

      11 Mga minamahal, dahil ganoon kadakila ang pag-ibig ng Diyos sa atin, dapat din tayong magmahalan. 12 Kailanma'y wala pang taong nakakita sa Diyos, ngunit kung tayo'y nag-iibigan, nasa atin ang Diyos at nagiging ganap sa atin ang kanyang pag-ibig.

      13 Nalalaman nating nananatili tayo sa Diyos at siya naman sa atin, sapagkat pinagkalooban niya tayo ng kanyang Espiritu. 14 Nakita namin at pinapatotohanang isinugo ng Ama ang kanyang Anak upang iligtas ang sanlibutan. 15 Ang nagpapahayag na si Jesus ang Anak ng Diyos ay nananahan sa Diyos, at ang Diyos nama'y nananahan sa kanya. 16 Nalalaman nating tayo'y iniibig ng Diyos at lubos tayong nananalig sa katotohanang ito.

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  46. in the first place kasi sana natanong nyo sa sarili nyu at sa mga pastor nyu bakit may kanya kanya grupo pa. yan tuloy pasiklaban nangyayari. hindi naman nakasulat sa Biblia na si Kristo ay kasama sa mga yan. May kanya kanya grupo at kanya kanya din ang mga motibo

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    Mga Tugon
    1. 1 Corinto 1:10-13 Mga kapatid, ako'y nakikiusap sa inyo, sa pangalan ng ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo, magkaisa kayo at huwag magkabaha-bahagi maging sa isipan at maging sa layunin. 11 Sapagkat ibinalita sa akin ng mga kasamahan ni Cloe na kayo raw ay nag-aaway-away. 12 Ito ang tinutukoy ko: may nagsasabing, "Kay Pablo ako;" may nagsasabi namang, "Ako'y kay Apolos." May iba pa ring nagsasabi, "Kay Pedro ako," at may iba namang nagsasabi, "Ako'y kay Cristo." 13 Bakit? Nahati ba si Cristo? Si Pablo ba ang ipinako sa krus para sa inyo?

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  47. Dumami ba ang miyembro dahil :

    a) Nangangako ng himala
    - Gagaling ka!
    - Mawawala ang problema mo!
    b) Pinaniwala ang mga miyembro na dadami pera nila
    - Ang kayamanan ng masasama ay mapupunta sa mga mananampalataya
    - Ang iyong perang itinanim ay aani ng 100 beses
    c) Pwede palang maging banal nang hindi tinatalikuran ang kamunduhan
    - Ganda ng music dito. Parang paborito kong banda
    - Ganda ng jokes ng pastor
    - Let's party!
    - May halloween costume party din (at marami pang kahalintulad na activities na naka-e-enjoy para hindi ma-bore ang mga youth)
    - Praise God dahil best actress ako. Mabuti na lang at naghubo ako sa pelikula
    d) at marami pang ibang kumikiliti sa tenga ng mga manonood

    Ilan na lang kaya ang sasama kung sinabing uusigin sila, pagtatawanan, maghihirap (pighati, sakit), itatakwil ng pamilya at pwedeng patayin dahil sa sinampalatayanan nila?

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    Mga Tugon
    1. a) Exodus 15:26 Ang sabi niya, "Kung ako ay buong puso ninyong susundin, kung gagawin ninyo ang matuwid at susundin ang aking kautusan at mga tuntunin, hindi ko ipararanas sa inyo ang alinman sa mga sakit na ipinadala ko sa Egipto. Akong si Yahweh ang inyong manggagamot."
      a1) Santiago 5:13-15 Nahihirapan ba ang sinuman sa inyo? Manalangin siya. Nagagalak ba ang sinuman? Umawit siya ng papuri sa Diyos. 14 Kung kayo ay may sakit, ipatawag ninyo ang mga pinuno ng iglesya upang ipanalangin kayo at pahiran ng langis sa pangalan ng Panginoon. 15 Pagagalingin ng Diyos ang maysakit dahil sa panalanging may pananampalataya; palalakasin siyang muli ng Panginoon at patatawarin ang kanyang mga kasalanan.
      b) 3 Juan 2 Mahal kong Gayo, idinadalangin kong ikaw sana'y nasa mabuting kalagayan at malusog ang katawan, tulad ng iyong buhay espirituwal na alam kong nasa mabuting kalagayan.
      b1) Deuteronomio 28:1, 6 "Kung susundin lamang ninyo si Yahweh na inyong Diyos at tutuparin ang kanyang mga utos, gagawin niya kayong pinakadakila sa lahat ng mga bansa sa balat ng lupa. 2 Mapapasa-inyo ang lahat ng mga pagpapalang ito kung susundin ninyo ang Diyos ninyong si Yahweh. 6 "Pagpapalain niya kayo sa lahat ng inyong gagawin.
      c) Lucas 13:3 Ngunit sinasabi ko sa inyo, malibang magsisi kayo't talikuran ang inyong mga kasalanan, mapapahamak din kayong lahat.
      c1) 1 Corinto 9:21-22 21 Sa piling naman ng mga Hentil, na hindi saklaw ng Kautusan ni Moises, ako'y naging parang Hentil upang sila'y mahikayat ko rin. Subalit hindi ito nangangahulugang hindi ko sinusunod ang mga utos ng Diyos, sapagkat ako'y nasa ilalim ng kautusan ni Cristo. 22 Sa piling ng mahihina sa pananampalataya, ako'y naging parang mahina rin upang mahikayat ko sila. Ako'y nakibagay sa lahat ng tao upang sa lahat ng paraan ay makapagligtas ako ng kahit ilan man lamang.
      d) Filipos 1:29 Dahil ipinagkaloob niya sa inyo, hindi lamang ang manalig sa kanya, kundi ang magtiis din naman alang-alang kay Cristo.
      d1) Juan 15:18 Kung napopoot sa inyo ang sanlibutan, alalahanin ninyong ako muna ang kinapootan nila bago kayo. 19 Kung kayo'y taga-sanlibutan, mamahalin nila kayo, sapagkat kayo'y kabilang sa kanila. Hindi kayo taga-sanlibutan. Sila'y napopoot sa inyo dahil pinili ko kayo.

      Burahin
  48. Newbie here. Can someone please give me addresses to these churches mentioned above. I live on Taft near de la salle. I will love a place to worship today Sunday and or subsequent worship days. English speaking preferably or at least English interpreted. Many thanks

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    Mga Tugon
    1. You can check out Cathedral of Praise at 350 Taft Ave. cathedralofpraisemanila.com.ph

      Burahin
  49. VCF is located at Village Square Mall, Harrison Plaza. While Bread of Life is located at SMX SM Aura BGC. You can check GCF, CCF, JIL through their respective websites, http://www.gcf.org.ph/, http://www.ccf.org.ph/home/, http://www.jilworldwide.org/

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  50. totoo pala ang tsismis... tayo tayong mga natagurian christians ang nagpapadaigan... mga bros and sis... wag tayo basta basta manghuhusga... and Diyos lang nakakaalam nang mga puso natin :) kaya yun ang alagaan natin sa galit, inggit...

    mabuhay tayong lahat nang payapa at nagmamahalan :)
    God is good :)

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Kawikaan 26:22 Ang tsismis ay tulad ng masarap na pagkain; masarap pakinggan, masarap namnamin.
      Filipos 2:3 Huwag kayong gumawa ng anuman dahil sa paghahangad ninyong maging tanyag; sa halip, bilang tanda ng pagpapakumbaba, ituring ninyong higit ang iba kaysa inyong mga sarili.
      Mateo 7:1-2 "Huwag kayong humatol, nang kayo'y di hatulan. Sapagkat hahatulan kayo ng Diyos ayon sa paghatol ninyo sa iba, at susukatin kayo ayon sa panukat na ginagamit ninyo sa iba.
      1 Samuel 16:7 Ngunit sinabi sa kanya ni Yahweh, "Huwag mong tingnan ang kanyang taas at kakisigan sapagkat hindi siya ang pinili ko. Si Yahweh'y hindi tumitingin nang katulad ng pagtingin ng tao. Panlabas na anyo ang tinitingnan ng tao ngunit sa puso tumitingin si Yahweh."

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  51. I feel pity for other comments, rise to depend to their own evangelical churches, folks kung may perpektong church sabihin nyo lang sa akin at pupuntahan ko yun later on hindi na perpekto yun kasi hindi ako perpekto, but b'coz of God's graciousness thankfull ako sa immeasurable mercies nya,

    1 Corinthians 1:12-13New International Version (NIV)

    12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas"; still another, “I follow Christ.”

    13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

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  52. Everyone. Please don't compare these churches with one another, or even those that are not mentioned here. There is only one church: and that is the body of Christ. These are just a small part of the body of Christ. Each local church (JIL, VCF, GCF, CCF, etc.) has its calling. Salvation is found in Christ not in church so instead of making competition let's thank God because these local churches are in one page (not to compete but to help each other) growing. By the way, these churches (even the small churches) are not big enough as long as there is one Filipino soul not saved.

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  53. Look for a church (kahit hindi sikat o malaki in number) na si Kristo ang pini-preach! If you are "church-hopping" hanapin mo yung talagang spiritual family mo! Huwag husgahan yung ibang church may kanya-kanya tayong pagkakatawag sa Diyos pare. Instead of judging, bat di tayo magtulungan.

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  54. Hi. Im a Catholic. Confused po ako kung pwede bang pumunta ang isang Catholic sa VCF? Marami na kong nabasa at narinig about VCF. Kahit sa boyfriend ko umaattend siya dun. Paki-explain naman po sakin yung tungkol sa VCF kasi hindi po ako satisfied sa mga nababasa ko lang sa net. Salamat :)

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Hi. Welcome ang sinomang kaanib sa ibang religion na umattend sa vcf. Ang vcf ay hindi isang religion at hindi nagtuturo ng bago o ibang religion kundi ang mga aral sa Biblia na isinulat ng mga apostol tungkol da mga aral ni Jesus patungkol sa biyaya ng Dios na kaligtasan sa mga sasampalataya at susunod sa Kanya at hindi sa alin mang religion. Kung may iba ka pang katanungan maari mo akong padalhan ng email sa rgdiomampo@gmail.com

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    2. Hi. Welcome ang sinomang kaanib sa ibang religion na umattend sa vcf. Ang vcf ay hindi isang religion at hindi nagtuturo ng bago o ibang religion kundi ang mga aral sa Biblia na isinulat ng mga apostol tungkol da mga aral ni Jesus patungkol sa biyaya ng Dios na kaligtasan sa mga sasampalataya at susunod sa Kanya at hindi sa alin mang religion. Kung may iba ka pang katanungan maari mo akong padalhan ng email sa rgdiomampo@gmail.com

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    3. Pero necessary po ba na maging kaanib sakanila? I mean, kelangan po bang magpabaptize para makasama sa mga victor group ganun po? Medyo naguguluhan po kasi ako. Salamat po

      Burahin
    4. Jam hindi mo kailangan na umanib sa kanila. Kung ikaw ay katoliko hindi mo pa nauunawaan ang kaligtasan. Kapag mauunawaan mo na ang mabuting balita ay mauunawaan mo din na ang pagpapabawtismo ay hindi nangangahulugan ng pag-anib sa relihiyon. Ang bawtismo ay public declaration ng isang sumasampalataya at nakikipag-isa kay Kristo at tanda ng pagsisisi at pagtanggap ng kaligtasan sa ginawang pagtubos ni Kristo sa ating mga kasalanan at pagcommit ng buhay para sa Kanya.

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    5. Jam hindi mo kailangan na umanib sa kanila. Kung ikaw ay katoliko hindi mo pa nauunawaan ang kaligtasan. Kapag mauunawaan mo na ang mabuting balita ay mauunawaan mo din na ang pagpapabawtismo ay hindi nangangahulugan ng pag-anib sa relihiyon. Ang bawtismo ay public declaration ng isang sumasampalataya at nakikipag-isa kay Kristo at tanda ng pagsisisi at pagtanggap ng kaligtasan sa ginawang pagtubos ni Kristo sa ating mga kasalanan at pagcommit ng buhay para sa Kanya.

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    6. Thank you, Sir Ronald :) it really helps me a lot. I have more question and nahihiya po akong i-email ka.
      Ahmmm.... Ang pagiging Christian po ba ay religion? I got confused.

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    7. Jam, to the general perspective of the world any belief in God is a religion. Based in what the Bible teaches, to God, however, being a true Christian is being born of God and not being a member of any religion. Merely being identified or professing as a Christian is different from living Biblically as Christian. To be a Biblical Christian is to be born of God which happens by believing that the Bible to be the Word of God and the Gospel or the Good News that contains about Jesus Christ who is the Son of God or God Himself who put on a human body in order to die to pay the sins of the world out of His love for mankind, and that He rose back from the dead so that that those who believe in Him shall have eternal life which literally means that even if they die they will live again when Jesus comes back and that they will not die anymore. To believe in Jesus is to put our faith in Him which is evidenced by obedience in Him, firstly by His call for repentance or to turn away from sins in order that the payment for or forgiveness of sins will take effect and then for the Holy Spirit to dwell in the bodies of those who do so so that they may become His children and be empowered to truly live righteously for God according to how they should live as taught in the Bible. This is only a summary of what you will learn by reading the Bible and listening to His Word. If I may also advise, pls regularly listen to channel 702 DZAS AM radio station. Email me and I will refer you to my wife. We are both teachers of the Bible and at this time we serve God through Christ Commission Fellowship.

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  55. nkakalungkot isipin na kapwa pa mananampalataya ang nagsisiraan at nagbibigayan ng Bad Comments. Iba-iba naman po ang ating mga pananaw at kumento. So let's just respect each other's opinion. Lalo pa dahil we are Christians.. we should show a good example to others :) .. Pero para sakin mas gusto ko po ang Iglesia Evangelica Metodista En Las Islas Filipinas (IEMELIF).. Founded on February 28, 1909.. Di man sila sumikat ng todo nakuntento sila at tumagal ng 107 Years.. Amazing.. Komento ko lang po iyon at base lang po iyon sa aking pansariling pananaw.. Godbless everyone..

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    Mga Tugon
    1. Buti na lang brod/sis. at sinabi mong komento mo lang 'yon at base sa sarili mong pananaw. God bless your whole family.

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    2. Tama mga kapatid. Huwag po tayong mag away away. We are all humans, living in one earth..and in fact, hindi naman po talaga nageexist si God. Kung nageexist siya, please provide any scientific proof po. Thank you and God bless

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    3. Roma 1:16 Hindi ko ikinahihiya ang Magandang Balita, sapagkat ito ang kapangyarihan ng Diyos para sa kaligtasan ng bawat sumasampalataya, una'y sa mga Judio at gayundin sa mga Griego. 17 Sapagkat ipinapakita ng Magandang Balita kung paano ginagawang matuwid ng Diyos ang isang tao; at ito ay sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya buhat sa simula hanggang sa wakas. Tulad ng sinasabi sa Kasulatan, "Ang itinuring na matuwid ng Diyos sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya ay mabubuhay."

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    4. Awit 14:1 "Wala namang Diyos!" ang sabi ng hangal sa kanyang sarili.
      Silang lahat ay masasama, kakila-kilabot ang kanilang mga gawa;
      walang gumagawa ng mabuti, wala nga, wala!

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  56. tanong ko lang po.... ang JIL po ba ay Evangelical Church?

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    1. Question: "What is an evangelical church?"

      Answer: An “evangelical” church can mean different things to different people. Some have a narrow application of the term evangelical in reference to the denomination called the Evangelical Church. Others use it broadly in reference to Protestant churches that continue to hold to the inerrancy of Scripture and salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. However, most commonly, the term evangelical refers to theologically conservative individuals or churches that affirm biblical inspiration and salvation as a personal faith experience in Jesus Christ.

      The National Association of Evangelicals is a large network of American evangelical churches. They define the evangelical movement as one that holds to the following beliefs:

      • Conversionism: the belief that lives need to be transformed through a “born-again” experience and a lifelong process of following Jesus

      • Activism: the expression and demonstration of the gospel in missionary and social reform efforts

      • Biblicism: a high regard for and obedience to the Bible as the ultimate authority

      • Crucicentrism: a stress on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross as making possible the redemption of humanity
      (Source: http://www.nae.net/church-and-faith-partners/what-is-an-evangelical)

      On the academic level, the Evangelical Theological Society defines an evangelical Christian scholar as one “devoted to the inerrancy and inspiration of the Scriptures and the gospel of Jesus Christ” (http://www.etsjets.org/about). While these scholars’ beliefs may vary greatly in other areas, they share a common commitment to Scripture, a Christ-centered gospel, and a Trinitarian view of God.

      Some people view evangelicals as synonymous with fundamentalists. There is much overlap—fundamentalists and evangelicals share a theological conservatism but may diverge on matters of separation. Fundamentalists are usually known for being more conservative culturally.

      Also, some view the evangelical church as a voting bloc to be identified in primarily political terms. While evangelicals are typically socially conservative due to their view of Scripture, evangelicals do not identify with a particular political party in the United States or elsewhere.

      Ideally, evangelical churches are known for taking the Bible seriously, seeking to live by the teachings of Christianity, and sharing Christ in a wide variety of contexts.


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  57. Kapatid, may idea ka na kung ang JIL ay evangelical Church. God Bless.

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  58. LET US STUDY THE WORD OF GOD
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f8rm748jf7y3dyv/AAA8lgwUuvZSJmDUQBFDeoiva?dl=0

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  59. LET US STUDY THE WORD OF GOD
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f8rm748jf7y3dyv/AAA8lgwUuvZSJmDUQBFDeoiva?dl=0

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  60. LET US STUDY THE WORD OF GOD
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f8rm748jf7y3dyv/AAA8lgwUuvZSJmDUQBFDeoiva?dl=0

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  61. Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.

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  62. JESUS prayed that His church to stay united. We are NOT suppose to be debating about megachurches doctrine ( though there really is a wrong doctrines/ non biblical teaching) but we are Christians, we are not followers of the Church. We are followers of JESUS CHRIST.

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  63. ... followers of JESUS CHRIST are followers of WORD OF GOD.

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  64. Ang CHURCH ay hindi nag exist para mag-paramihan ng MEMBERS, ito ay nag-eExist dahil kay GOD, JESUS and HOLY SPIRIT... at para din HUMAYO at MAG-DISIPULO... kapag ito ang LAYUNIN ng BAWAT MANANAMPALATAYA ito ang TOTOONG mga DISIPULO ni JESUS... Kaya po set aside all our differences let GOD be GLORIFIED sa mga ating mga CHURCHES dahil ang TOTOONG church ay ang bawat mananampalataya kay KRISTO... TAYO po ay MAG-KAISA para gawing DISIPULO ang mga BANSA para kay KRISTO.

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  65. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 (NIV)

    For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

    They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

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